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Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave, catsxp who dared to cowardly act in a disgusting way to ban me in an abusive, dictatorial, unjust way without explanation which reinforces the doubts and questions and accusations against this anonymous browser closed source who refuses to admit that he copies brave's code #812

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trimechee opened this issue Sep 7, 2024 · 17 comments

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@trimechee
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Hello, I had respectful relations with the developer of the web browser catsxp :

https://www.catsxp.com/

I asked him to fix a crash bug on a certain site on my windows 7 32 bits and catsxp fixed the crash problem, I thanked him and it encouraged me to politely ask him to add the native blocking feature of heavy ads crypto mining present in chromium stock, catsxp developer could have just ignored my request or deleted my message but what causes suspicion is that he banned me from the forum just for suggesting a vital improvement present in chrome, edge browser and chromium based browsers !!!

I saw catsxp flags, there are flags linked to an advertising network, I don't know if this code linked to ads is copied from brave browser, all this is weird and suspicious and not transparent especially after my unfair ban......

and catsxp only accepts messages on its forum after a preliminary examination and catsxp does not have a facebook page, twitter, whatsapp, physical address...and catsxp refuses to admit that it takes the code from brave browser which is very suspicious and weird.....

so here is my suggestion for the magnificent Mr @Alex313031 please: make a new browser named Thorium-Hero based on the source code of brave browser because brave browser is open source and brave is the only chromium browser in the world to support manifest v2, we know that brave browser's ad blocker is not open source so we hope for a compilation of brave browser's source code with the famous ublock origin ad blocker who will remain a supporter of the manifest v2 and add the feature that does not exist in brave and catsxp: add the native heavy ads blocker to block crypto mining heavy ads at the source for a security consideration, I think it will make Throium Hero even more popular and simply the best browser in the world and of all time!

brave has an ad blocker that is not open source so we don't know if brave will partner with companies in the future, and let some ads filter through, and brave has recently installed a vpn without users' consent, and catsxp is not open source and can be pressured by the government to spy on people and catsxp has suspicious flags linked to an advertising agency in addition catsxp unfairly banned me when I talked about introducing the native heavy ads blocker which is very suspicious .....

i use catsxp out of obligation because it is the only browser for windows 7 that uses a recent chromium kernel but when i buy a new modern laptop in sha Allah, i would like to use Thorium browser and avoid catsxp and brave who have illogically and incomprehensibly removed the essential native heavy ads blocker function, thank you very much!

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explanation of the native heavy ads blocker feature that we would like to be added to Thorium Hero based on the brave browser manifest v2 code:

there is an interesting and strange thing, I personally did several tests and comparisons withcatsxp , brave, opera, cromite, ungoogled chromium, ecosia web browsers... .

these browsers and brave and catsxp are incapable of blocking heavy ads and cannot activate the native function of heavy ad blocking and anti crypto currency mining useful especially after the transition to manifest v3 and the ad blockers will become less powerful,

i go to https://heavy-ads.glitch.me/ and heavy ads are not blocked !

probably blocking heavy ads does not work on these web browsers maybe because they don't like google services and features , except stock chromium browser from woolyss site, chromium can block heavy ads, also also edge browser can block heavy ads....

so unfortunately this takes away a lot of the interest and relevance of other browsers based on chromium if they can't block heavy ads especially with the arrival of manifest v3 :

https://chromium.woolyss.com/

https://heavy-ads.glitch.me/
(Ensure chrome://flags/heavy-ad-privacy-mitigations is Disabled and click reset)

https://blog.chromium.org/2020/05/resource-heavy-ads-in-chrome.html

https://github.com/johnivdel/heavy-ad-intervention

We hope our beloved Cromite will be adble to block natively heavy ads and potentiel crypto currency mining, thank you !

this article which explian this revolutionary feature :

https://blog.chromium.org/2020/05/resource-heavy-ads-in-chrome.html

"Chrome will limit the resources a display ad can use before the user interacts with the ad. When an ad reaches its limit, the ad's frame will navigate to an error page, informing the user that the ad has used too many resources."

this site can test this feature :

https://heavy-ads.glitch.me/
(Ensure chrome://flags/heavy-ad-privacy-mitigations is Disabled and click reset)

the github of this feature

https://github.com/johnivdel/heavy-ad-intervention

i peronaly tested , chromium browser of woolyss, and microsoft edge browser can unload heavy ads when we using this test site :

https://heavy-ads.glitch.me/
(Ensure chrome://flags/heavy-ad-privacy-mitigations is Disabled and click reset)

but cromite, catsxp, ungoogled chromium, opera, brave, ecosia....can"t unload heavy ads natively, we are talking about the native ad blocker integrated into chromium activated by default without the need of adblock extension addon like ublock origin , so we shoud first disable adblock extensions addons before testing this feature !

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"Heavy Ad Intervention Explainer
Background
A small fraction of ads on the web use an egregious amount of system resources. These poorly performant ads (whether intentional or not) harm the user’s browsing experience by making pages slow, draining device battery, and consuming mobile data (for those without unlimited plans).

In these egregious cases, the browser can unload the offending ads to protect the individual’s device resources. This is a strong intervention that is meant to safeguard the user’s resources with low risk because unloading an ad is unlikely to result in loss of functionality of the page’s main content.

Motivating Use Cases
Examples of observed ad behaviors that are intended to be discouraged:

Ads that mine cryptocurrency
Ads that load large, poorly compressed images
Ads that load large video files before a user gesture
Ads that perform expensive operations in javascript, such as decoding video files, or CPU timing attacks"

@trimechee trimechee changed the title Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave Sep 7, 2024
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Sp0kzz commented Sep 7, 2024

Don't use catsxp it's chinese and closed source. If you want a solid Windows 7 browser then use Supermium it's open source just like Thorium. And Use ublock origin with it.

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trimechee commented Sep 7, 2024

Thanks so much for your precious advices :) 💯 🥇

When I had Windows 10, I refused to install catsxp because we don't know the identity of the developer, where he lives and if he can resist the pressure of the government that likes to spy....

but since my laptop crashed, I use my old eee pc from 2012 and I can't watch streaming videos because of low cpu freeze lag.....

I have to download, fdm does not work on my favorite streaming platform so I have to use stream recorder extension which recommends us to use the latest version of chrome i.e. the latest version of chromium to avoid possible bugs, yes supermium and thorium legacy are very good but do not use the latest version of chromium kernel so having catsxp in reserve is useful:

https://www.hlsloader.com/

being Chinese software does not necessarily mean it is suspicious software, one of the Thorium maintainers is Chinese and he is nice and a trustworthy person, and the developer of the magnificent Cat-catch extension is nice and a trustworthy person and his extension is open source and life saver allowing to download videos and preview videos with vlc or potplayer:

https://github.com/xifangczy/cat-catch

the Chinese people are intelligent and are dominating the world so in our life, we can not exclude Chinese softwares, just catsxp seems suspicious beacause not open source and he banned me, maybe because catsxp plans to broadcast ads (lots of ads flags) and my request thwarts their plans....in any case the native ad blocker of catsxp does not block all ads, I tested it....

in any case in the flags of catsxp, there are flags related to ads and I disabled them and catsxp must explain and give us a physical address of their company, or catsxp afraid that brave will discover their secret that they took the code from brave? what is the license of brave browser? can Thorium hero be inspired by brave's code?

brave already integrates ublock origin in a special short list, so my request focuses on restoring the original code of heavy ads blocker native disabled by brave and catsxp, yes i discovered new fantastic browsers compatible with windows 7 and use the latest version of firefox on windows 7: r3dfox and luminafox, the problem is that with the open in vlc extension, i am forced to keep firefox based browsers open because of the child process, while for chromium browserrs, we can close the chromium browser and enjoy vlc while saving resources in my old eee pc

@trimechee trimechee changed the title Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave n catsxp who who banned me in an abusive, dictatorial, unjust way which reinforces the doubts and questions and accusations against this anonymous browser closed source Sep 7, 2024
@trimechee trimechee changed the title Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave n catsxp who who banned me in an abusive, dictatorial, unjust way which reinforces the doubts and questions and accusations against this anonymous browser closed source Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave, catsxp who who dared to cowardly act in a disgusting way to ban me in an abusive, dictatorial, unjust way without explanation which reinforces the doubts and questions and accusations against this anonymous browser closed source Sep 7, 2024
@trimechee trimechee changed the title Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave, catsxp who who dared to cowardly act in a disgusting way to ban me in an abusive, dictatorial, unjust way without explanation which reinforces the doubts and questions and accusations against this anonymous browser closed source Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave, catsxp who dared to cowardly act in a disgusting way to ban me in an abusive, dictatorial, unjust way without explanation which reinforces the doubts and questions and accusations against this anonymous browser closed source Sep 7, 2024
@trimechee trimechee changed the title Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave, catsxp who dared to cowardly act in a disgusting way to ban me in an abusive, dictatorial, unjust way without explanation which reinforces the doubts and questions and accusations against this anonymous browser closed source Thorium-Hero to replace suspected catsxp manifest v2 based on brave, catsxp who dared to cowardly act in a disgusting way to ban me in an abusive, dictatorial, unjust way without explanation which reinforces the doubts and questions and accusations against this anonymous browser closed source who refuses to admit that he copies brave's code Sep 7, 2024
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@trimechee @Sp0kzz I have the thorium-legacy repo, with builds that support XP - 8, based on Supermium patches. It is behind on version though.

Both thorium-legacy and the regular thorium repo will re-add MV2 code when the time comes that they remove it, so don't worry.

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Great !! Thank you so much Mr Alex :)

in the future i hope i will get a new windows 11 laptop so our dream please, if it is technically possible and it does not tire you, we hope Thorium-Legacy which supports manfest v2 will be compatible with windows 10 or windows 11, because i saw in the issues of Supermium browser people talking about some bugs of Supermium in windows 11 ! so Supermium seems to be compatible with windows 11 os and we hope our beloved Thorium legacy will be too compatible with windows 10, thank you very much :)

@trimechee
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Hi Mr @Alex313031, just to say I remember you told me months ago that you often use the famous Stream Recorder extension:

https://www.hlsloader.com/

I installed this extension from the chrome store, it works well then recently, I could no longer download a video from a streaming site and the developer advised me to use the version of Stream Recorder from the microsoft edge store because chrome policy prohibits decrypting hls encrypted videos while edge store apparently allows it....

so just to inform you that it is better to use the edge store version of Stream recorder which is more powerful than the chrome store version, and hence the importance of considering adding edge store support to our beloved Thorium browser, or at least advising Thorium users of sites or means to manually install edge store extensions in crx format and favor them over more restrictive chrome store extensions....

Thorium installs by default ublock origin developer edition, maybe it will be a good idea to install by default the edge store version of Stream Recorder because it is the best download extension in the world and it is indispensable in our life and replaces paid IDM!

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@trimechee have you tried using Live Stream Downloader extension instead? It too stopped working but the dev fixed it.

@trimechee
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@KickMultistream I spoke several times with Mr Chandler who is ultra kind and generous and who helped me a lot and advised me and fixed several bugs including this bug I was talking about, Live Stream downloader can download separate audio and video streams but can't merge them, Cat catch extension use external service ffmpeg online to merge audio and video, and the Stream Recorder enigma manages to merge audio and video internally without external service or local program, imagine I just asked the developers of Live stream downloader and Cat catch about this difference in operation and so we hope they will be able to merge audio and video in the future internally like Stream recorder does....

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KickMultistream commented Sep 23, 2024

@trimechee your best bet is to maybe install the extension on edge then locate its folder at C:\Users%username%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\Extensions. Copy it somewhere (on desktop for example) Then enable developer mode on thorium then "load unpacked" and choose the folder of the extension that you copied. (the folder that contains manifest.json and the other files).

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Great!! Thank you so much for your precious help Mr @KickMultistream :) 💯 🥇

from what I remember, the only reliable way to install edge extensions in chromium browsers is to download ungoogled cromium and then use the open source extension recommended by ungoogled chromium which allows you to install extensions from the chrome store and the edge store, I installed catsxp in my windows 7 os and which in theory allows you to install edge store extensions but I did not succeed, maybe there is a hidden catsxp flag to activate.....

but now you gave me this tip and I thank you :)

The most important thing I think that Thorium we hope will continue to allow you to install crx extensions outside the stores far from the censorship and abusive control of certain stores....

in any case the Stream Recorder version for edge was updated on September 15, while the last update on chrome store is in July, so the edge version is definitely better, and in the more I heard and it is to be confirmed, chrome store requires money for developers to put their extensions on the chrome store?

I am now talking with the developer of Live stream downloader asking him to go take a look at the developer console mode of stream recorder to see how this extension achieves the feat of merge audio and video without external service, same for the Cat catch extension, I encouraged the developer to find a way to merge audio and video without using ffmpag online of Cat catch :

https://ffmpeg.bmmmd.com/

because the developer told me my cpu is probably too old and does not support SMID instructions of ffmpeg online so I can no longer unfortunately use ffmpeg online to merge audio and video from certain hls encrypted sites....

but fortunately Cat-catch allows us to preview videos with potplayer or vlc without needing to download which is useful in my eee pc windows 7 32 bits because html5 video web browsers are heavy and the video freeze lags in web browsers but not in potplayer....

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if Stream Recorder does updates, I'm not going to bother the friendly Stream Recorder developer every time to send me a custom zip link of the extension version for microsoft edge store that supports hls decrypt, so I went digging in catsxp browser forum to see how to enable microsoft edge store extensions support and I managed to install edge extensions!!

here is the procedure, we should execute this as administrator:

catsxp settings

get started

run as administrator

startup parameters

--enabled-microsoft-brand

restart catsxp

I remember that months ago, Mr @gz83 asked me to bring proof that catsxp browser allows us to install microsoft edge browser extensions, and now I provide this proof :)

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gz83 commented Sep 24, 2024

Thank you for providing this information.

CatsXP seems to be based on Brave? I think this browser can install extensions from the Edge app store, which should be a function inherited from Brave.

By the way, I should have asked you if catsxp is really open source software. But it has been a while and I am not sure.

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trimechee commented Sep 24, 2024

Hi Mr @gz83 , I am embarrassed to talk about catsxp browser, I do not want to be ungrateful, the developer of stream recorder asks us to use the latest version of chrome to avoid bugs and catsxp is the only web browser on windows 7 os 32 bits to use the recent chromium kernel 129, catsxp has a crash on news website and the developer of catsxp was kind enough to fix this bug, it encouraged me to politely ask him to activate the internal adblocker of chromium which blocks heavy ads, crypto mining .... and I was surprised shocked by the reaction of catsxp forum who banished me without any explanation!

catsxp could answer me that it refuses to activate the heavy ad blocker that I find essential because the manifest v3 adblockers are not very powerful, and brave also deactivated the internal heavy ad blocker and uses its own ad blocker but catsxp and brave can use these 2 ad blockers at the same time, there is no conflict.....

I do not accuse them but all this is very suspicious, the good news is that these 2 web browsers allow the use of ublock origin manifest v2....

so even if these browsers intend to broadcast their own ads, ublock origin will block their ads because we use catsxp and brave for ublock origin manifest V2.....it is incomprehensible......

catsxp developer says in the forum that catsxp uses its own internal certificate and it does not pay for a standard certificate because it costs money....

I do not accuse him of anything but yes in sha Allah i have a new windows 11 laptop, i will not use catsxp anymore, because now i use it by necessity on my winodws 7 os because of its chromium kernel 129 very recent....

i have posted several messages on the catsxp forum and each time, my message must be approved beforehand in order to be published, and catsxp does not have a physical address, all this leaves me perplexed, the anti virus analysis of softpedia says catsxp is safe but i remain circumspect, in comparison we know the real name of the developers of our beloved Thorium browser, it is a guarantee of trust, catsxp wants to be discreet because apparently it takes the code of brave? i found several features of brave in catsxp....

i have a question: why our beloved Thorium legacy browser does not use chromium kernel 129 please like catsxp for windows 7 32 bits?

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gz83 commented Sep 24, 2024

I won't say much about catsxp until I've actually used it and gotten to know it better.

What version of Thorium chooses as the next major version is Alex's decision, and I have no right to interfere with his decision.

In addition, regarding issues with Thorium versions that are outdated, please check the FAQ for this repo, which is located in the //docs directory.

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trimechee commented Sep 24, 2024

Yes of course, it is Mr Alex's decision and it is wise and sensible I do not dispute it :)

I just asked this question out of curiosity, I assume the chromium lts version is more stable, in addition it seems Thorium legacy is based more and more on the supermium code, so we would first have to convince the developer of Supermium Mr @win32ss of the merits of my idea to use the latest chromium kernel in the great browser Suprmium :)

and what do you personally think of my idea of ​​a new Thorium-Hero brand based on the brave code?

criticisms of brave were and are numerous:

a developer said that there were hang freeze lag in brave and he analyzed this behavior and discovered that the brave ad blocker had a serious bug that has been fixed since this discovery....

others criticize the brave update service in the background which has an administrator privilege and too much power and brave can install anything on our computer without us realizing it....

there was also controversy over brave's vpn installed without the explicit consent of users, and controversy over crypto affiliate links .....

brave browser is open source without its ad blocker, hence my idea of ​​a new browser based on brave without the negative sides ....

chromium is taking a worrying turn with the domination of google and its unilateral decisions against the opinion of developers: ublock origin says it cannot disable dns prefetch in chromium by design, the dictatorial manifest v3, extensions prohibited outside the chrome store .....

is it worth the worth investing development efforts on chromium controlled by the mastodon google whose goal is to distribute ads? even the reader mode is disabled in chrome ....

recently, news says that the project to delete cookies has been canceled by google, google has good sides for example android is free while windws 11 is paid, we can install apps outside the play store while the apple store forbids it, but the fact that we can not activate energy saver on desktop computer, and we can not increase the session store interval in chromium, memory saver enabled only after 2 hours idle ..... probably because google wants a fast web browser regardless of power consumption, all this is scary and makes us fear the worst :(

i think brave is the current and future success, the usa department of justice is trying to dismantle google for dominant position .... google in lawsuit against java concerning the API and risks heavy penalty .... i do not bury google, the world needs a strong google to compete with the greedy apple but these dark auspices make us fear the worst on the end of google, and chromium

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i will speak honestly, the chinese government forces chinese companies to spy on users, it is with pain and sorrow and lamentations that i reluctantly installed castxp only because it is compatible with my windows 7 and the fact that catsxp banned me and exercises prior control over comments in the forum reinforces the suspicion that catsxp is perhaps linked or cooperating with the chinese government who likes to spy on everyone, hence the need for a new democratic independent alternative to catsxp, no need for development, just copy brave's code and remove unnecessary stuff like crypto stuff, brave vpn, background update service and enable ublock origin manifest v2 by default .....

chromium is under the domination of google's arbitrary decisions and brave has the courage to oppose google and make a courageous decision to keep manifest v2, brave is better than chromium, brave become popular, usa government trying to break up google for abuse of dominant position, unless chromium breaks free from google, brave is the best web browser with firefox

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gz83 commented Sep 29, 2024

Please try to minimize or avoid discussing political issues and other products unrelated to Thorium in issues. I know you want to make Thorium browser better, but ultimately how Thorium browser will develop still depends on Alex to decide.

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