diff --git a/clap_derive/src/utils/ty.rs b/clap_derive/src/utils/ty.rs
index 32bc2c4fc98..a87ab16962f 100644
--- a/clap_derive/src/utils/ty.rs
+++ b/clap_derive/src/utils/ty.rs
@@ -26,21 +26,13 @@ impl Ty {
 
         if is_unit_ty(ty) {
             t(Unit)
-        } else if let Some(subty) = subty_if_name(ty, "Vec") {
-            if is_generic_ty(subty, "Vec") {
-                t(VecVec)
-            } else {
-                t(Vec)
-            }
+        } else if let Some(vt) = get_vec_ty(ty, Vec, VecVec) {
+            t(vt)
         } else if let Some(subty) = subty_if_name(ty, "Option") {
             if is_generic_ty(subty, "Option") {
                 t(OptionOption)
-            } else if let Some(subty) = subty_if_name(subty, "Vec") {
-                if is_generic_ty(subty, "Vec") {
-                    t(OptionVecVec)
-                } else {
-                    t(OptionVec)
-                }
+            } else if let Some(vt) = get_vec_ty(subty, OptionVec, OptionVecVec) {
+                t(vt)
             } else {
                 t(Option)
             }
@@ -155,3 +147,19 @@ where
 {
     iter.next().filter(|_| iter.next().is_none())
 }
+
+#[cfg(feature = "unstable-v5")]
+fn get_vec_ty(ty: &Type, vec_ty: Ty, vecvec_ty: Ty) -> Option<Ty> {
+    subty_if_name(ty, "Vec").map(|subty| {
+        if is_generic_ty(subty, "Vec") {
+            vecvec_ty
+        } else {
+            vec_ty
+        }
+    })
+}
+
+#[cfg(not(feature = "unstable-v5"))]
+fn get_vec_ty(ty: &Type, vec_ty: Ty, _vecvec_ty: Ty) -> Option<Ty> {
+    is_generic_ty(ty, "Vec").then(|| vec_ty)
+}
diff --git a/tests/derive/occurrences.rs b/tests/derive/occurrences.rs
index c8cbb9e37ab..db4ae37eb03 100644
--- a/tests/derive/occurrences.rs
+++ b/tests/derive/occurrences.rs
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#![cfg(feature = "unstable-grouped")]
+#![cfg(all(feature = "unstable-grouped", feature = "unstable-v5"))]
 use clap::Parser;
 
 #[test]
@@ -19,23 +19,21 @@ fn test_vec_of_vec() {
 
 #[test]
 fn test_vec_of_vec_opt_out() {
-    fn parser(s: &str) -> Result<Vec<Vec<String>>, std::convert::Infallible> {
-        Ok(s.split(':')
-            .map(|v| v.split(',').map(str::to_owned).collect())
-            .collect())
+    fn parser(s: &str) -> Result<Vec<String>, std::convert::Infallible> {
+        Ok(s.split(',').map(str::to_owned).collect())
     }
 
     #[derive(Parser, PartialEq, Debug)]
     struct Opt {
         #[arg(value_parser = parser, short = 'p')]
-        arg: ::std::vec::Vec<Vec<String>>,
+        arg: Vec<::std::vec::Vec<String>>,
     }
 
     assert_eq!(
         Opt {
             arg: vec![vec!["1".into(), "2".into()], vec!["a".into(), "b".into()]],
         },
-        Opt::try_parse_from(["test", "-p", "1,2:a,b"]).unwrap(),
+        Opt::try_parse_from(["test", "-p", "1,2", "-p", "a,b"]).unwrap(),
     );
 }