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Distinguishing glaciers by glacier:type, in particular ice shelves and ice tongues #4158

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c933103 opened this issue Jun 10, 2020 · 7 comments
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c933103 commented Jun 10, 2020

Looking at the area around 72°S 71°W at mid-zoom levels (~9), where there are both glacier over land and glacier over sea, I found thatit is difficult to tell where are land and where are sea because they're both rendered with same color for glacier. While there are also coastlined but ot's difficult tovtell which part are land and which part are sea. I think it could be distinguished by tuning the color of glacier over sea to be a bit different from.color of glacier over land?

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imagico commented Jun 10, 2020

Discussed first back in #646, has been demonstrated how this is done on:

http://maps.imagico.de/#map=9/-72.064/-72.620&lang=en&r=osmlz&o=aa&ui=0

by distinguishing glacier rendering based on glacier:type=shelf and glacier:type=ice_tongue.

For the tagging practice see:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Antarctica/Tagging
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dglacier
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Glaciers_tags

@imagico imagico changed the title Different shades of color for glacier over land/over sea? Distinguishing glaciers by glacier:type, in particular ice shelves and ice tongues Jun 10, 2020
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c933103 commented Jun 10, 2020

Discussed first back in #646, has been demonstrated how this is done on:

http://maps.imagico.de/#map=9/-72.064/-72.620&lang=en&r=osmlz&o=aa&ui=0

by distinguishing glacier rendering based on glacier:type=shelf and glacier:type=ice_tongue.

For the tagging practice see:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Antarctica/Tagging
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dglacier
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Glaciers_tags

What about doing it using same principle as methods proposed in #3854?

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imagico commented Jun 10, 2020

That does not work here because the mapping practice for floating glaciers and ice sheets is different from that of submarine and tidal coastal features. See the above links for the tagging practice as well as #1540 for current implementation of rendering this in OSM-Carto. Anyway - as said the solution is rather simple since tagging of ice shelves and ice tongues is fairly consistent.

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@c933103 thank you for mentioning this. It appears that glacier:type=shelf and glacier:type=ice_tongue are fairly commonly used.

Would you be interested in submitting a PR to start rendering these features distinctively?

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@imagico it would be helpful if the tag glacier:type were documented with it's own wiki page, or more fully documented on Tag:natural=glacier, perhaps with some of the text from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Antarctica/Tagging

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c933103 commented Jun 10, 2020

@c933103 thank you for mentioning this. It appears that glacier:type=shelf and glacier:type=ice_tongue are fairly commonly used.

Would you be interested in submitting a PR to start rendering these features distinctively?

Sorry, I am not sufficiently familiar with the structure of the style to create a pull request that can achieve a desired result without.

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imagico commented Jun 10, 2020

@imagico it would be helpful if the tag glacier:type were documented with it's own wiki page

Yes, probably.

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