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All folders marked as Inboxes shall check for new Messages #2

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blausand opened this issue Dec 6, 2011 · 5 comments
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All folders marked as Inboxes shall check for new Messages #2

blausand opened this issue Dec 6, 2011 · 5 comments

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@blausand
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blausand commented Dec 6, 2011

I understand that so far, Folder flags modifies UI behaviour mainly.
However, i think that the Addon should also help us to correct misassociation as a result of TB localisation.
Especially, i have set several server side Filters that help sorting before my arbitrary clients come into play.
In the last months, i missed some IMPORTANT mails, because TB only checks the main Inbox on opening.
It should check ALL Folders marked as Inbox.

Thank you for considering.

@voccs
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voccs commented Dec 6, 2011

Is this different from the setting (in English) "When getting new messages for this account, always check this folder" available for each folder (Folder Properties, General Information)?

@blausand
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blausand commented Dec 7, 2011

Am 06.12.2011 23:44, schrieb Ryan Lee:

Is this different from the setting (in English) "When getting new messages for this account, always check this folder" available for each folder (Folder Properties, General Information)?
This sounds like what i am missing. However, there is no such setting in my
folder properties dialog.
I can only

  • view name and address of the folder,
  • switch on and off indexing for the folder
  • choose a code base
  • set a code base override for all messages in that folder
  • repair the .msf header file

I wish i could do as you describe above!

Michael N. Baumann

blausand <http://www.blausand.net> /think utopia! speak utopia!/
silvertree <http://www.silvertree.de> /komplexe audiovision/
kitev <http://www.kitev.de> /Kultur im Turm e.V. Oberhausen/

@blausand
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blausand commented Dec 7, 2011

Am 06.12.2011 23:44, schrieb Ryan Lee:

Is this different from the setting (in English) "When getting new messages for this account, always check this folder" available for each folder (Folder Properties, General Information)?
SOLVED
This is a flaw!
The above mentioned option is hidden when the folder is flagged as an inbox folder!
I could easily solve my problem by unflagging, setting the option and flagging
again.

I recommend leaving the option visible, and additionally setting it checked with
folders flagged as inbox!

Michael N. Baumann

blausand <http://www.blausand.net> /think utopia! speak utopia!/
silvertree <http://www.silvertree.de> /komplexe audiovision/
kitev <http://www.kitev.de> /Kultur im Turm e.V. Oberhausen/

@voccs
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voccs commented Dec 7, 2011

I think there are some subtle semantics to the concept of Inbox in TB, the primary one being that there's only one per account. If you have other folders that need to be checked, you select the option described - as opposed to making more Inboxes. Is there anything you hope to gain (other than the UI representation of an Inbox instead of a folder) by marking a folder an Inbox?

I can add this to the documentation - a lot of people expect the Trash flag to do more, too - but this is a light extension and isn't meant to interfere with deeper concepts like Inbox options.

@blausand
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blausand commented Dec 7, 2011

Am 07.12.2011 01:22, schrieb Ryan Lee:

I think there are some subtle semantics to the concept of Inbox in TB, the primary one being that there's only one per account. If you have other folders that need to be checked, you select the option described - as opposed to making more Inboxes. Is there anything you hope to gain (other than the UI representation of an Inbox instead of a folder) by marking a folder an Inbox?
Yes, indeed the add-on evokes hope for those deeper functionalities. There's a
lot of bad history in thunderbird's code base and one of them is bad
understanding of localized standard folder names, resulting in duplicate
standard folders. Worse than that, TB is internally using english names.
The wildest result is that you can't find sent mails when you sent them from
other computers (or rather TB installations). I had many cases when sent mails
were copied to local folders.
This got slightly better when i could abandon POP altogether.
But i still have trouble deleting double standard folders that are used in other
computer's prefs.js or in the webmailer of the provider.

Therefore, i think either the core or the folder flag add-on should grow a
component that brings more intelligence to initial recognition of an accounts'
server side standard folders.

Another "feature" i'd expect folder flag to bring to effect when marking a
folder as a...

  • sent folder, is that the list of mails shows the recipient column rather
    than the sender column by default.
  • draft folder, is that double clicking a mail will fire "edit as new" instead
    of "open in new tab"

I can add this to the documentation - a lot of people expect the Trash flag to do more, too - but this is a light extension and isn't meant to interfere with deeper concepts like Inbox options.
I understand this, and if you (and the potential community of co-developers)
can't for any reason sacrifice quite some energy, this gap might regrettably
have to remain.

Thanks anyway, and know that your work so far is by the way much appreciated!

Michael N. Baumann

blausand <http://www.blausand.net> /think utopia! speak utopia!/
silvertree <http://www.silvertree.de> /komplexe audiovision/
kitev <http://www.kitev.de> /Kultur im Turm e.V. Oberhausen/

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