August 13, 2018 Meeting

Agenda for August 13, 2018

Empty spinbutton question

• Issue 704 (Spinbutton: What should aria-valuenow be when a user gives invalid input, when should it update?) raises questions about delete functions in a spinner.
• Does an empty spinner make sense? e.g., what if you want to require user to set a value in a scenario where there is no good default choice?
• Empty spinners are not allowed because aria-valuenow is a required property.
• Related ARIA issue 797: Make aria-valuenow supported instead of required for spinbutton role
• Spec for aria-valuenow

aria-controls and aria-expanded on tabs

Discuss aria-controls on tabs:

• Bryan raised Issue 459: Manual activation tabs is confusing when aria-selected alone is seperate from focus
• Should this drive some browser requirements to aria-controls or raise JAWS bug? See ARIA issue 531
• Matt proposing browser requirement to only expose aria-controls when target is visible.

Discuss aria-expanded on tabs:

• Should we consider using aria-expanded true to indicated current tab?
• Tabs are not toggles. An expanded tab cannot be collapsed.
• Spec for aria-expanded

Purpose and intended effect of separators in menus

• Issue 614: Question about how role="separator" is supposed to work in Menu widgets
• Issue describes level of support in various AT/browser combinations.
• Raises the question of purpose; only to support reading mode/touch?
• Should separators be labeled? Or, should there only be labeling if using a group, which should be announced in forms/focus mode?

Carousel review

• First draft of carousel design pattern in Jon's repo
• First cut of image carousel example in Jon's repo

Future meetings and other business

• September 3: no meeting due to US Labor Day holiday.

Meeting Resources

• This meeting's minutes
• Prior meeting (Jly 16) minutes
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• All Git Issues
• Editor's draft on github pages
• RawGit of master branch
• Current Public Working Draft on w3.org/tr
• Defects open in bugzilla