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Documentation: add roadmap #16279

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@ahrtr ahrtr commented Jul 21, 2023

Add a roadmap so that all contributors and users know the priorities of each major or minor release. Note that etcd community will continue to focus on technical debt over the next few major or minor releases.

Please read https://github.com/etcd-io/etcd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#contribution-flow.

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ahrtr commented Jul 21, 2023

cc @mitake @ptabor @serathius @spzala @wenjiaswe @etcd-io/members @logicalhan

cc @tbg @pavelkalinnikov @erikgrinaker FYI. I am planning to release raft 3.6.0 sometime this year.

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LGTM

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cc @mitake @ptabor @serathius @spzala @wenjiaswe @etcd-io/members @logicalhan

cc @tbg @pavelkalinnikov @erikgrinaker FYI. I am planning to release raft 3.6.0 sometime this year.

I'm a little bit worried about releasing 3.6 without having the full downgrade story worked out for 3.4->3.5 first.

## v3.6.0
| Title | Priority | Note |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Support downgrade | P0 | etcd will support downgrade starting from 3.6.0. But it will also support offline downgrade from 3.5 to 3.4. |

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I would like online downgrade from 3.5 -> 3.4 to be backported.

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That's too much work and too risky. You would need to backport everything listed in #13168.

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It's also risky to upgrade to 3.5 without a fallback plan.

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Offline downgrade is the fallback.

@ahrtr ahrtr force-pushed the roadmap_20230721 branch 2 times, most recently from 467f49c to b56c0f3 Compare July 22, 2023 05:28
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LGTM

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cc Hitoshi Mitake Piotr Tabor Marek Siarkowicz Sahdev Zala Wenjia @etcd-io/members Han Kang
cc Tobias Grieger Pavel Kalinnikov Erik Grinaker FYI. I am planning to release raft 3.6.0 sometime this year.

I'm a little bit worried about releasing 3.6 without having the full downgrade story worked out for 3.4->3.5 first.

Agree, several cloud providers are still on etcd 3.4, releasing 3.6 means 3.4 will not be supported any more, but upgrading from 3.4 to 3.5 is too risky without having a downgrade support.

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ahrtr commented Jul 23, 2023

I'm a little bit worried about releasing 3.6 without having the full downgrade story worked out for 3.4->3.5 first.

thx for the feedback. Please see the discussion in #15878, and feel free to add comment in that ticket.

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fuweid commented Jul 24, 2023

I revisited the existing pull requests. Since the compacted resource version might cause list-all request in Kubernetes, it's easy to cause OOM-Killed. IMO, we should consider to continue the work of #12343 and introduce max_bytes limit in one response #14810 in 3.6 or 3.7.

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ahrtr commented Jul 24, 2023

IMO, we should consider to continue the work of #12343 and introduce max_bytes limit in one response #14810 in 3.6 or 3.7.

#12343 has already been stage/tracked. We will definitely evaluate both #12343 and #14810 separately in future when we have capacity.

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| Remove the dependency on grpc-go's experimental API | | |
| Protobuf: cleanup both golang/protobuf and gogo/protobuf | | |
| Proposals should include a merkle root | | |
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Merkele root for me is a P1 for v3.6.0 as proposed in https://github.com/etcd-io/etcd/blob/main/Documentation/postmortems/v3.5-data-inconsistency.md#action-items

I want to pick this up after robustness tests.

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I do not see a clear or feasible solution so far. We can have more discussion in future.

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I have couple of ideas, just need to write down the design.

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LGTM, with strong recommendation to put in merkle tree on the table and some comments about giving more context.

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ahrtr commented Jul 24, 2023

with strong recommendation to put in merkle tree on the table and some comments about giving more context.

I do not have enough confidence to pick it up in 3.6 timeframe for now. But it's open for discussion, and we can evaluate it separately.

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with strong recommendation to put in merkle tree on the table and some comments about giving more context.

I do not have enough confidence to pick it up in 3.6 timeframe for now. But it's open for discussion, and we can evaluate it separately.

That's why it's not a P0, but a P1. We can start planning it in v3.6.0, but have a full feature available in v3.7.0

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Nice, thanks @ahrtr
LGMT but wondering about this:
The doc says, etcd 3.6.0 will depends on raft 3.6.0 and etcd 3.6.0 will depends on bbolt 1.3.8 then why they are P1 instead of P0? Aren't they pre-req/blocker for v3.6.0?

Signed-off-by: Benjamin Wang <wachao@vmware.com>
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ahrtr commented Jul 25, 2023

Good point. Just changed the priorities to P0 for the two items you mentioned. Thanks @spzala

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ahrtr commented Jul 26, 2023

With the approval from 3 maintainers and 3 members/contributors, merging this PR...

Just as discussed above, it isn't set in stone, it may shift over time. [But I don't expect too much change for 3.6]. The roadmap just gives a high level direction of the project for the next few major or minor releases. It doesn't mean we will never receive any features which are not included in the list.

@ahrtr ahrtr merged commit 326dab9 into etcd-io:main Jul 26, 2023
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